On Not Watching the “Debate”

No Talking Keep Cranking

I’m glad I didn’t watch the debate. What are they debating anyway? Spending cuts, deficits and taxes. Why do people listen to that stuff? Do they think that is a way to act like an adult like it shows other people you are a responsible person? One needs to debate about a deficit when the fed can’t even give money away? Cut spending so more money doesn’t get spent to buy stuff? This will help the economy? You would think that after the last bank crisis the press might allow some people who have actual ideas about real things to talk occasionally. But then I wouldn’t be listening anyway so I guess it doesn’t matter. I keep thinking about all the young able bodied Americans who are in prison, school, the armed forces or just unemployed. I guess it really doesn’t take much work to produce enough food and build enough houses for everyone to stay alive. Seems like there are actually way too many houses all sitting empty. Why do people even bother worrying. Even the people who actually have jobs rarely do anything productive. I work in a doctors office and at least 95 percent of the work is shuffling papers. A lot of the people who do actual work like building things or harvesting crops are immigrants used by “business” men to make them an “honest” buck while they are denied many basic human rights. Sometimes I think the people who really hate immigrants are the same people who don’t want to realize that they do nothing for no one. If everyone one washed their own dishes and made their own food no one would have a job. Its kinda sad, technology has made the economy so productive that people really don’t have to work that much but instead of realizing that and making some changes people are led to believe they need to support a larger prison population, more higher education and a bigger military and if they don’t have a job they should just feel really bad and stay out of sight. What else can people really do anymore? There is no public culture in America. The occupy movement looked so weird because it joined human beings together without giving people there marching orders. There is power in people just being together as people. If people went to school to learn how to think and act for themselves and be part of a living culture, if they turned off the TV,realized it was an empty box that had removed their souls and instead of getting up and going someplace else to get told how to be they just turned to their neighbor and started a conversation about what its like to be a human. Imagine people talking about what it’s like to be a imperfect fallible mortal human being able to make decisions and do things out of some inner desire instead of trying to act and feel like some twisted “ideal person”,some manipulated advertising created capitalist statistic analyzed and picked apart by the new technocratic high priests.

12 excuses to not do

  • Excuses not to do

  • 1. I am too angry

  • 2. I can’t think straight

  • 3. I am too depressed

  • 4. I am too tired

  • 5. doing is overrated

  • 6. anything I do is likely to be counter productive

  • 7. I am sure I will regret it later

  • 8. there isn’t anything worthwhile to do

  • 9. someone else has already done it..better

  • 10. perhaps not doing it will make a bigger statement

  • 11. my reasons for doing are corrupt

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In general A lot of the people who live in the south are uneducated limited sheeplike beings

I got a response to my Local “Hero dies for Idiots’ Post.
It was on my Deviant art site
I for one can’t imagine the denial someone who lost there child in the war
must have to go through.  Of course they may just be completely ignorant, It’s not like
there is an actual mass media outlet that does any valid journalism anymore anymore.
And no one really reads to learn they seem to read to allow themselves to continue to not think.
anyway here’s the comment I got then my reply
comment
“It could also be considered truly humbling that he died knowing that, and willingly did so. That those who choose to serve in the military often do so knowing full well that the majority of the people they are willing to die for are the same idiots that protest their existence and label them murderers, butchers, baby-killers, and any number of other things.”
Reply
Baby-Killers there’s a catch phrase. I wonder if any of the pilots knew all the people the indiscriminately bombed. If something is wrong it is your responsibility not to take part in it. The war in Iraq is so profoundly wrong and so transparently evil that the only valid excuse a soldier could give for taking part in it would be some sort of mental retardation. Oh I guess you could excuse a person who has grown up without an education or I suppose even the standard American Education would amount to the same thing. Thee is no use in arguing time will make it crystal clear and once again those sheep among the American people, the ones that would just want to accept anything regardless of any standards, moral framework or basically any reflective thoughts whatsoever. A soldier is not an innocent victim. An innocent victim is anyone who through no fault or action undertaken by them suddenly find themselves dead. Anyway it’s good that there is such a thing as history because rest assured once things have settled down everyone will come to know who is wrong. Kinda like the whole slavery thing. )
Why don’t we take a look at history, lets see…let’s start with Alexander the Great. Slaughtered an awful lot of people but has that “the great” title on him. Lets skip forward a coupla thousand years…Howabout WW2? The great war, an honest war…lost, what? 40 million people? maybe more. A good war, though. Might have found ourselves living under the Third Reich without it. You probably would be in a concentration camp or working some rocket factory if they had prevailed. Or, you might have found yourself a death camp guard. Who knows. See, Maury, there are things worth dying for. There are causes worth dying for. There is honour in life, if you choose to have it. I like you. Wouldn’t mind sitting down and talking cameras with you. But you just don’t get it when it comes to a thing like this. You never will. And no matter how you respond to me, I feel sorry for you.

Well for that to work Iraq would have had to have had some kind of military power or something. See otherwise we’re the ones who are the German nazi‘s because we are the aggressor. But then the Nazi’s were trying to take over the world. Little country big enemy. But now it’s. Big country-but of unfortunate civilians in the wrong place

This isn’t about Iraq or whether or not the war is right or wrong, it is about a young man who gave his life to a cause he believed in. He didn’t fight to stamp out oppresion or save democracy, he fought for his buddies that were there with him. In the end, his sacrifice made it possible for the others to come home.

There is a reason soldiers are young, Maury, it’s because as we age some of us get way too cynical.

I don’t see why doing what you are told is such a cherished American value. I would think not doing what you are told would be more American. Perhaps that’s what lemming do. They all race to the cliff to jump off because perhaps they’ll create a pile of dead bodies tall enough to cushion their buddies fall.
Living ,as I do know, in the south I have really come to understand the subtle power of community opinion. I may not effect me as I understand that these are limited human beings living in fear but I also recognize this worldviews destructive power. It’s a power that comes from a populous of followers. In Tullahoma there are many many signs in public places that espouse the virtues of “Faith”. This faith isn’t in a higher power but in a fear based, willfully ignorant, boring view of the world. A world that is hell not because of its being the world and not heaven but because these people support and fight for the instantiation a of hell which the can then live in. I realize that most people are half-baked couldn’t care less selfish bastards but here in the south when they reach out to something larger then themselves all they can find is cynical fascist doomsday religious cults and hate mongering kleptomaniacal conservative political parties. It’s apparent to me that I’d better stand up and at least try and stick by some sort of uncynical belief that this world can be improved that one doesn’t need to create a hell for everyone. A belief in some reals standards like not killing other people if they aren’t about ready to kill you. It’s in the individual the these belief system have to dwell they can’t come from blind faith. Faith leads to corruption it leads to Nazi’s and Stalinists and hate.

to the contrary…faith and fear are different things. You are simply confusing that which you are ignorant of.
Also, to the contrary, Americans are among the least accomodating of authority. Contrast us to the Europeans who follow government orders carefully and methodically (for example, the Swiss Health System).
If faith was as bad as you believe, then why is it a fundamental part of every human culture? Even Nazism and Stalinism replaced traditional faiths with cults of personality.
The world is not a bad place, Maury. Quit finding evil in every motive.

soraxtm

 

It’s just that the “Faith” in other here in the south leads to people who are proud of there ignorance. iN A SPIRITUAL SENSE FAITH CAN BE POSITIVE. I can have faith that I am not alone or that if I perform certain actions I will feel better. But Faith as it is understood in this town is obedience to authority. Someone is always interested in what you have faith in because the benefit from it. I certainly don’t see EVIL everywhere. There are evil things happening. And NO faith is blind obedience. Most people do not ever wake up. Most people actually watch television. They are completely oblivious to to the fact that it only shows views of interested parties. There is no way one can have a discussion or learn anything through that form of distorted communication.

From going to a twelve step group I understand the positive aspects of faith but then the group I go to asks nothing of its members and gains nothing from them. People are free to have whatever opinions they want. Churches aren’t like that. Church distort the messages in the own holy book in order to gain things in this world. Look sat the southern baptists or pat Robertson or the catholic priests or …it goes on and on. Education is about coming to understand something without the reliance on faith. In America faith is only used to make people go against there on inborn conscious and do evil things like support the war on terror, the war on drugs, the corporate consolidation and media stranglehold etc. etc. Look at the discourse on television it is completely disingenuous. When the mikes are off the reporters say something completely different. It’s not like thy are journalists but they know they have to say certain things to support some vapid media view of the world. I(n the past people did amazing things in order to change their world into something better. The wobblies for wxample were exteremely radical and at the time they were considered subversive but they were able to understand what there power actually was and use it to get fairer wages and 40 hour work weeks. It was bottom up not top down. Don’t listen to your masters because they don’t serve your interests

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posted 08/09/08

So I I asked yougottabekitten to use her boffo typing skills to transcribe this vintage piece of Russian anarchist writing.  This piece was written 0ctober 12 1917 a few weeks before the revolution or perhaps a bit afterward depending on which calender you use (Gregorian or Julian). It caught my eye because it has the same title as the 1992 subgenius video.  Anyway I just love it i found it in one of the books pictured below in this post. The book is “the Anarchists in the Russian Revolution”  ISBN 0-9014-9141-x.

Arise! (Selitsky)

Arise! Arise people! Proclaim your mighty word: Enough! I do not wish to be an automaton. Away with all despots and parasites. I am a man! I want to live, to create my own life. I have the right to life and happiness. I want my happiness to be the happiness of others as well. I want my destiny to be no longer a plaything in the hands of despotic Gods of heaven or earth. At this moment, at this hour, I take my fate in my own hands and reject any further appeal to visible or invisible Gods.

You, Invisible Gods of the Heavens! You call yourself Gods of justice. But where is your justice? You call yourselves Gods of truth. But where is your truth? You say you are punishing evil. But where is your punishment? You are omnipotent. But where is your power? You are ubiquitous. But where are you then? You are all-knowing Gods – you knew and permitted these crimes. And now that human beings perish by the thousands and the whole earth wallows in blood, you all-powerful Gods are powerless to stop this nightmarish drama of humanity. You are ubiquitous – looking in silence at the sea of tears and the rivers of blood. You have not a drop of compassion for the human beings you have created. You bless this orgy of animal passions. You thrive on blood. You thrive on death. You thrive on humanity’s misfortune.

Thus you are the Gods not of life, but of death, not of happiness, but of misery, not of freedom, but of oppression. You are all of you despots, criminals, tyrants. Bloodthirsty Gods. Your godly machinations are revealed in the following stupid desires: I want – I shall create. I want – I shall take. I want – for myself. I want – so he will remain in a fog.

Arise! Arise then people! Disperse the nightmare surrounding you. Take the voice of truth as your own possession. Put an end to all the stupid desires of earthly and heavenly deities. Say “Enough – I have risen!”

And you will be free.